(0:00)The 'Man of God' Illusion
unfilter hello everyone and welcome to another episode of PF on filtered thank you so much for listening thank you for your feedback thank you for your plugs they've plugging us feedback has been good yeah I've had a lot of people send me text messages and um and DMS it's been really good and DMS screenshots yeah you want to be in psdms I I I don't mind being in psdms no man my DM no but I'll be I'll DM you and ask you question of you know like yeah yeah in that s guys guys I'm not as bad as I sound um yeah before we go into today's episode um I think we should do a quick post check so PF sh how was you guys' week any anything new you learned about yourself this week anything new I learned about myself this week this week yes is that too recent should I say recently this week is too limiting yeah maybe what if there's nothing I'm trying to think what I learned about myself I learned that I have limits you can push me and I can explode you learned that this week yeah that I still have oh okay I thought I had I thought I had evolved oh okay you know and my temper and you know my being triggered had been minimized to almost you know Jesus level this week I was reminded that I am still very much um a problematic human being but uh you know honestly I've never seen you angry yeah it's a it's a privilege to see me angry well does that mean I don't know that I want that privilege yes you don't I think I lowy do though like I would know you I would really know you if I don't see like the good parts of you right quote unquote good for me to get very angry to be really angry with you as as a person there's a level of comfort I must have with you so you're not comfortable with me not really you give me some you give me some guys that was a wrap thank you so much for listening oh I mean cool I mean it's fine to fine to it's good to know these things early on yeah so I can be giving PF some harder harder questions sh any anything I learn about recently um maybe not learned but actually a question was asked to me this week what's something you would want people to know about you that they don't already know or isn't obvious and I was like I think knowing like I want people to know that I don't always have it together even if it seems like it and I don't always want to have it together or want to be the responsible one like sometimes I want to just okay just be just let me
(02:45)I'm Just A Human Being
rest I just want to be a girl okay wow that's not very complimentary it's okay it's okay sometimes I just want to be a girl I know I know I know is there any on that let me piggy back p is there anything about you that you would like the world to how did you ask you like the world to know but it or they should how did you how so is there something that you would want people to know about you that they don't know ordinarily like just in meeting your or even people that think they know you but just something I think for for me I think the the the the fundamental thing is that people understand that I am human like I am just as human no more human than you are right um I'm not superum I don't have special powers you know um I have a temper if you say the wrong thing you will trigger me I have my weaknesses I have my struggles I am called to be a pastor by the grace of God right the grace of God enables me to do a certain work to do certain you know to fulfill certain responsibilities but it does not take away my humanness right and one of the frustrations for me of being a pastor is that people meet you and for some reason can't get beyond the title and invariably they are disappointed because human is as far as human goes sooner or later it's going to come out right and that disappointment always shocks me like really what did you think or who did you think you were talking to you know did you really think you would say this to me and because I'm a pastor I'm going to suck it up or you would do this to me and because you know there's just this unrealistic um expectation and perspective that people have of folks who serve in the way that um that I serve so I I I I like to lead with my Humanity right that way I minimize the potential for you to be disappointed right does that make sense no it actually does I'm shocked I actually got that yeah so I I lead with my Humanity I don't lead with my title right I lead with my Humanity I I don't lead with my calling without God right enabling me to do this work right I couldn't do it the Bible says we bear this treasure in Ann vessels right that the Excellency of the glory of the power of the praise can go to God right I think people forget sometimes that we are Ann vessels right we're not gold vessels right if you put a man of God on a pedestal and he falls off who asked you to put him on the pedestal in the first place not God right okay and he's not the man of God mean some men of God might but sorry you know what that's why it is man of not man God man of God fair enough I we put a PIN to that one
(05:46)Why I Was Hesitant to Speak
because this this topic today is is is going to topic okay going to topic the topic is top um sh I sh Shan and I as we usually do we would um meet and and discuss um what potential topics or conversations we wanted to bring to PF on filtered and this this this one we had a bunch on the table and this particular one was the one that red or would you say it got us talked a lot a lot on this particular world so like you know it makes sense might as well uh and was actually hesitant I was I was a little bit because to bef point I think sometimes I need to be careful how I speak because I can say something and and if you take it that face value you'll be like something's wrong with this guy but if there's a personal relationship there you know or even if you look at the actions you know that okay maybe he's not as crazy as it sounds um the word of
(06:40)Is the Bible 'The Word of God'?
God okay what is the word of God what does that mean that question is very is very vague I think that's that's the point right uh we I'll give our level set yeah I was going to say can you give the scenario he asked and I I was like what are you talk she still said to said our level set so for me I what you what you I I'll use dayon as an example so the justification I get typically for marriages and I'm we don't have to dive into marriages a topic so we stay on the word of God but I get this it's not good for man to be alone MH so someone quotes the Bible MH and tells me well I've quoted the Bible so clearly this is something that you should do right this is this is a this is this is a Christian this is an inspired statement from God God made it literally right so you should follow it right and for me I get stuck I get stuck I I don't I don't believe that I don't and and I'm going to put a disclaimer this is just my My Views which camera this is Tay's views I don't I'm not speaking for a religion I'm not speaking for a church I'm not speaking for anyone I'm just I don't believe that the word of God for me is not literally the Bible okay right so that's just a level set I believe the Bible is is manuscript for Christian Living I believe the Bible is very powerful divinely inspired I just don't believe it's a it's literally the word of God okay so I'm asking you in your own terms right what what if someone came to you and said okay what is the word of God how will you answer okay so if somebody said to me the thing is this right the
(08:24)The British Constitution Analogy
way to describe it is I don't know if you've heard of the British constitution right in England they have what they call an Unwritten Constitution and it's an amalgamation of different documents right the constitution of England is not one document unlike the American Constitution I believe that the word of God is the Bible yeah but I also believe that we perceive God in other ways nature for example um is a reflection of the will of God in some ways right um the galaxies right are reflection of the will of God in some ways the limitations of our existence are manifestations of the will of God in some ways right so but the main body of it I would in a hard bit say it is the Bible right the idea that the Bible is not the word of God for me is extremely problematic right because then it would mean that there is l really no purpose to our existence right and we just happen to be here and some guy right or some group of guys decided to write a bunch of stuff right to uh justify their existence in a way that doesn't make any sense to me because the word of God is confirmed or the the teachings of scripture are confirmed throughout all of humanity classic example the idea of punishment right the idea of Merit yeah the idea of substitution yeah um I come from the
(10:05)Sacrifice and Human Instinct
west coast of Africa Nigeria right we we know that when you offend the gods you have to sacrifice something right so you drive down any Street in ion or Lagos you see this little plates of you know sacrifice of sacrifice left on the streets particularly on those what do you call them um is it the three yes um Junctions those multiple I don't I don't remember the word right because there is this sense that there's something else Beyond this and all of us know that there's something else we all know it in our heart right that I can't die and it's just darkness after that right so who created you big bang really spontaneous combustion I think you actually need more faith to believe the theory of that theory that the world came into existence by spontaneous combustion than to think that there is a being right who put all of this together there's just too much order right there's too much Harmony your eyes are exactly where they need to be why aren't your eyes on the bottom of your feet nothing is random
(11:22)Are You Living Randomly?
right but we ascribe Randomness to it because we don't want to acknowledge the reality that there is a being right there is purpose and there is going to be accountability right so all of that is I think right a way of saying I am not accountable to anybody right I reject accountability so I will live my life as I see fit and that's fine but right my television can't wake up and say I will live my life the the way I see fit it lives its life based on how on what it was made to do right and you and I know most of us know for example that we have a natural gravitation towards relationships right when a person exists alone in isolation right it's a form of punishment if you're in prison and they put you in solitary confinement it's another level of you know of of um of of of punishment so when the Bible says uh it is not good for man to be alone we know that for a fact right I mean it's not yeah so I guess yeah so and I actually I agree right I I think what is what was difficult what is difficult to kind of clarify and express and Sh I'll let you chime in is it's not the so let me use a Biblical reference like when Christ said I believe in this Gospel of John he said um you search the scriptures for eternal life but he points you points you to me me you reject but as long as you have your scriptures and your just the the Pharisees I'm assuming you had your scriptures you were just convinced that you were in right living so I guess what I'm trying to what I'm trying to shed some light on is that that fine line right between I get what you're saying youying say but but you see the
(13:36)The Pharisee Mistake
problem is this right and this is the thing we fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of our existence right and the Pharisees misunderstood the purpose of their existence I think and I'm not trying to be arrogant and say I know all things but the Bible is clear right if you if you actually read it I always ask people what was God's plan for Humanity before the fall of Adam that was not the original intention God did not make man to be redeemed Redemption is a solution to a problem right Redemption is God's way of fixing the mess Adam and Eve made right so when the Pharisees are looking at scripture when people are looking at scripture right are they trying to figure out why God made man right because as far as they are concerned all they're interested in doing is being right with this God in living in a Godly way in quote so that their lives here can be comfortable right right and and that was the scripture that that is the is the Bible but this is the thing right that that was part of it not all of it right read the Bible for example go and read the books of Isaiah even the Psalms of David it speaks about something that is coming right it speaks about someone that is coming unto us a child is born unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulders even down to location of this child's uh uh uh uh birth right but they were so focused and I think that's that's that is the the error of modern day Christianity as well on Comfort right to the point that they lost sight of why God put them here if if you understand that the reason why God Made You is for a relationship with him right the question then becomes how do I achieve that relationship I want to have a relationship with shimu for example but shimu cannot stand people who smoke right I can either stop smoking or forgo my relationship with you but someone else can decide you know what I don't really want a relationship with shimun I just want shimun to she's a dentist I want free dental services I'm going to stop smoking right they don't care about the relationship with shim they care about free dental services PF just plugged you by the way so shout out and when you approach God right from what you can get from him right as opposed to a relationship you can have with him yeah you enter a realm where you can be very easily deceived right and that is the challenge we have and that is why the church I
(16:30)Why the Church Lost Its Way
think in many ways has lost its way right the church now primarily focuses on making people happy right but the pursuit of happiness happiness is that feeling of elation you know that we have right but what are the things that make us happy our circumstances right happiness you know the things that are happening around you they make us happy so for you to be happy I have to preach to your circumstances right and for you to be happy with your circumstances your circumstances have to be good so I have to preach to you about how your circumstances are going to be always good right but that is not what Jesus came to do so when you were just talking because the last time when we spoke we talked we the question came up with about so if the Bible did not exist do you think people will still believe God right absolutely and when we were just talking about relationship I guess I was thinking about how cuz me and T were talking and I was like the Bible is like it shows God's track record of like just constant kindness and Justice and faithfulness Justice through through like Generations um and I was like as an unbeliever if someone says this is God and he is good and I'm like who is this God how can I trust that and you show me scripture and say this is who he is and he's always been that for me I when we're having that conversation I was like for me it is like I can look at this and say he this I I can see his character through this or even just like I can see what he's done and and now that you're saying this I guess I'm kind of thinking about well when I met you and I'm like this is PF I don't know what you've done I don't I don't I don't know your track record but I was willing to risk it in pursuit of relationship and now I was just sitting here and I was like would we do that with God if we didn't know like this was this is his character this is what he's done absolutely would we just risk hey I want to have a relationship with you even if I don't know where it would it would had absolutely and I and I'll tell you why I I say that when God made us right he made us for relationship there's a natural yearning in the heart of every human being right for a connection with the Divine before the Bible was put together right before the Gutenberg Press was made and the Bible was put together right men have constantly searched right for something because they perceive in their heart that there is more to this life than the time we spend on this planet right the heavens decare the glory of God the firmament shows forth his handywork my most con convincing the most convincing argument from for the existence of God that I have heard did not come from the Bible it came from philosophers right uh there's a theory in philosophy called The Divine Harmony the UN unmoved mover the first cause the uncaused Cause right I learned that in second year philosophy of religion right and from a logical perspective it makes a lot of sense right the first cause okay if you believe that there is a cause that was not caused right why did that cause cause everything that we see it's not a cause CA cause that was what is the point of what is the point of Harmony right is either that or is random right but man it works too well for it to just be random everything makes sense right so I believe that when I when I um my my first year in in college and I I got into University to study philosophy and I always imagined philosophers I didn't know anything about philosophy I always imagine philosophers to be um from the from from Asia you know and Buddhists and you know and and stuff people like that and I I thought they would you know sit and meditate in the sunset and I actually tried it a couple of times I remember there was a day some of the guys I was roommates with came into the room and I was meditating on top of a closet right just trying to discern the universe discern my environment discern the meaning of my existence right creation purpose and all of these things and I think that that is a question that everybody asks why am I here right why is this like this and why is that like that and if you pursue that question sincerely right without a preconceived agenda yeah you will come to the conclusion that there is a God right there is a Creator so why did the creator create us it can't be just to eat and have babies sleep and right it can't be just that it can't be it can't be just that right I believe that God made us for relationship right the Bible doesn't really tell us much about the creation of angels but it tells us about the creation of man the Bible says God the godhead they gathered let us make man in our own image and in our own likeness when you are looking for somebody to have a relationship with you try and find somebody who is as close to you as possible you want somebody who is like you right you want somebody Who You're compatible with right God made us to be compatible with him yeah and that makes a lot of sense I see it in my relationship with my wife I see it in my relationship with you right you talked about earlier that people might think you are some type of way but I connect with you yeah we connect why we go way back because we're we're we're kind of alike the questions that you ask right are the questions that I asked when I was your age right but I guess my own education right made the answer easier for me right like I said I studied philosophy and what philosophy really is is ask asking why and trying to explain right there's there's a school of philosophy I don't remember their name and and they have this theory that it is impossible to know and if you know it is impossible to communicate it right and that is the most stupid thing I've ever heard because in saying it is impossible to know you are certain that you know I think it goes like this he who knows does not say and he who says does not know something like that whatever it's been a while no but you're actually or the folks who say that uh Kito osum I think therefore I am yeah I got you we are we we we Ponder these things right and the Bible is a very in my opinion and from my experience is a very accurate description of life right so when the Bible prescribes a way of life right I take it seriously in the same way that you know I enjoy putting things together together I that's my nature I like I can I can put I can even bake bread and if I if there's a recipe I can make it happen yesterday night I made Sichuan chili oil right from scratch from that that's the way my mind works if I can see instructions I'm good if the Bible gives me instructions on how to do life right I'm good because I know I need to know how to do life right and so this is funny right this is a great we're going to we're going to do a segment or make a case for Christ shortly before we wrap up but it's funny when sh made that point and then listen to what you're saying now is I think there we can agree there's consensus here that one we're not this convo is not about questioning if there's if God exists or God is cre the word yeah this word of God this convo is not about questioning the authenticity or the validation of the validity of the Bible kind of is if you if you say it is not the word of God then what is it okay so this is where this is where I'm this is what I'm going with I'm going here with this right so if and it sounds a little silly but just just just bear with me if you have someone that is blind that is what blind okay and deaf mhm and cannot feel what's the sense of him mhm how would you use the Bible if you were to to I guess help them build their relationship with God it is not my responsibility right because how would they do it I don't know exactly the fact that I don't know doesn't mean there isn't a way yeah I agree uhuh so but but no no no don't say you agree because because built into that question right is this idea that no is this idea that the Bible cannot do everything there for the Bible is not that that is the premise don't don't don't TR I'll I'll be very honest with you that's so transparent you I I I I know that's what it sounds like but I quite and if you notice like I I I love the Bible and it's my guide M for I don't I don't mind I don't mind but what I've noticed I don't mind that I don't mind the I don't mind the framing but I'm calling it out for what it is it doesn't bother me right I'm not one of those people that thinks I know everything and I have to have an answer for everything I I I don't there are so many things I don't know there are so many things I don't know I don't know so when you div when you describe a scenario right the fact that I don't know does not mean there isn't right and okay so and so to to be pure very transparent I'll give you I'll give you I'll tell you why I I led with this and why this conversation between when I was very exciting right the that's the word that's the word um and you you'll see it when we use the make a case for Segment shortly but if what I've noticed in my own life my own work with God is and I I went to a church Christ Apostolic church is where I grew up in and if you read of that church C it's a good CS it's a good church I think anyway let anyway um imagine if I told you guys right now that I know Brad Pit you I know Brad Pit are close yeah right like I would expect you guys to be like uh I mean it's possible Right but where how and I start just throwing out and you see what I'm going with this throwing out random facts about Brad pits you know like is you know I know when he was born I know how many marriages he's had in the past I know his children's names I know his wife's names I know where he worked I know the very first thing he did you know for someone that is easily entertained I can get away with it right but I could give you a bunch of facts about Brad pet but that does not mean I know him at all okay that does not mean that I'm close to him at all okay so what I what I did was a little bit of foreshadowing I'm not in any way even trying to play this you know stay between the line I don't know what I'm trying to say that I think at least personally in my life it seems like there is this and that's the Trap I think the FES fell into there's this unintentional over glorification of the method and not what the method like the word of God and not what the word of God reveals through Christ that's why Christ would that's the only Reas why I think Christ would tell people and say you search the scriptures for eternal life but you will never find it because he points you to me me that he points you to you don't agree with do you know why they won't find it or do you know why they struggle to the motive right no I well okay I think the the motive right the motive is is one right but also because they don't understand God's purpose right if you think the Bible is a book on how to get rich yeah you will not find Christ in it all you will look for is how to get rich yeah if you think the Bible is a book for how to have a successful marriage you will not find Christ in it right the Bible is a book to help us establish a relationship with God different areas of Our Lives impact that relationship so the Bible talks about marriage talks about making money talks about being unwell talks about a bunch of things but the focus of it the Old Testament from Genesis to Malachi right describe people who are struggling who are you know who desire to know God right but their desire to know God the vast majority of them was to know God so that they would stop getting into trouble right and ultimately you keep getting into trouble because you don't have a relationship with this God David David was a mess right David was a mess we all know David was a mess but God said of David this a man after my own heart Saul did not make as much of a mess as David did and it seemed like God was a lot more lenient on on Saul the difference between Saul and David was that David had a relationship with God right right he he understood the position of things right and and he just he just lived his life right but he cared about that relationship and for God that's a big deal right we treat God as a means to an end right and as long as he's a means to an end and our own end and what is our own end Comfort right we will miss God don't misunderstand me I don't think that it is God's will that we are always uncomfortable right I don't think wanting Comfort is a bad thing but if that is all we think about of course you're going to search the scriptures and you're going to miss them and I was going to even say like for cuz you had initially said before um T started talking again about how like the Bible is like instruction for how to live life and I was going to ask cuz I was like someone can say I've done everything that it it says we should do and then I still feel like my life is not what it should be addressed that because you just said like if you think life is Comfort like the essence of life is comfort so you're not going to find Christ because that's not what he said life is supposed to be it's really to just like create a relationship with God cuz I was just like but anyone can say I I I've done the I've done have you ever have you ever built an Ikea a piece of furniture from Ikea love it you finished building this things and then you now you now find a bag of screws right and when you see the bag of screws you know you've missed it page and you know that that thing you built there's a possibility it will collapse quickly it's because you did not read it properly you did not read all of it you for whatever reason you skipped parts of it right if your life is devoid of Hope right of joy and of Peace you have missed a page or two you might think you might think you've not but the evidence shows that you have you have you have because the reason right why Jesus came was to give us peace with God right that is the peace the Bible says that passes all understanding because it has nothing to do with your circumstances the reason Jesus came was that we may have joy right and joy is happiness but happiness from a different Source people think Joy is some esoteric feeling no it's happiness right but it is not from what kind of car you drive it is from knowing your position with God right we have we're righteous not because of anything that we are able to do because we know most of the things we do come from a mop place but because of what Jesus Christ did for us yeah if you look at your life yeah and you do not have hope right then you've you've skipped a few pages and you've been listening to the wrong things yeah I have hope because of what Jesus did full so yeah there are tough times you know bills sometimes are not paid I have some debt I struggle with this I struggle with that yeah absolutely but I know that that is not the end of my life that doesn't Define me right think about what high school was like yeah and then guess what what what made you keep going cuz you knew that this would end and you knew where you were going you were going to go to college right when you get into college you're all bushy and you know brigh eyed yeah and then they hit you right and then you start to worry but then you think you know what all I need to do is graduate yeah and then you graduate and all the number of years that you spent in college that you spent in high school that all of that is gone imagine if you had no hope that you would graduate that's a miserable existence and to your point PF cuz we were talking about this and I I think that's what um T was trying to even bring up with us even talking about the word of God at all with saying like there are people who would they can quote scripture all day every day they pray they can't speak in tongues they fast all these spiritual disciplines but when you look at their life they're anxious they're bitter they're um it seems like they have no hope they're fearful and they're like if you if you say you believe these things you're you're praying or why are you living like you're you're the expression of your life is is not showing the fruit of like knowing Christ like then what is the point like why are you going to all these 40 days fasting and prayer but you're living a life of fear that's the question what is the point what is the point of all the fasting of all the prayer that is the million dooll question what is the point all of those spiritual um disciplines right they're good but what is the point point of them yeah I think fundamentally and those people who are bitter who are anxious who are fearful I think all of those emotions are inevitable right because you're feeding on the wrong thing right you're trying to deal with God in a way that God says it's not going to work so it's not working but we know it's not going to work so why are we doing it because guess what it is easier to do than to be because when it comes to being right it requires you to believe it requires you to believe in something more than yourself it requires you to believe that Jesus Christ did so let me so that I can be it is easier for me to do for myself right and all of those spiritual disciplines are things I do so I I I get some sense of accomplishment in them but they don't produce the results consistently that I desire and again God has called us not so much to do but as to be and everything that we do subsequently comes out of that being it is in him that I live and I move and I have my being right if you are not in him living moving having your being you are going to at some point encounter frustration hopelessness and Des spare right and it's simply because you're trying to get results using methods that are to be generously described inconsistent and and and I appreciate that P because I think you've done a great job of exposing the the real reason why I asked the question about the word of God the beginning okay cuz I know I know it sound I'm not trying to be polarizing but I wanted to I wanted to get point is not a bad thing yeah but I want us to get to the point of to what you were saying about how what is the point of having the Bible if your life is christless right and I think for some of us maybe not all of us for some of us we are so addicted to just I have the Bible I'm showing up to church I'm checking boxes off like the rich man like I have done all these things to your point even though if you really have I mean but in their minds they've done all these things but what's the point of doing all these things when your life don't don't take my word on faith look at your life doesn't show that so that's that that was where I was going I know you thought I was I was trying to go there no no e it to like see things like this is the this is the the challenge I have been told what the point is and the point is comfort so I I I don't ask myself what's the point because I've been told I feel like I know what the point is you you because it didn't because it didn't work and when it didn't work I went back and read the manual again you again you you did you'll be amazed how many keep trying they keep trying try harder try hard because point the motive was never about Christ it no my motive was not about Christ well my motive was it seemed like he was cuz you went back no I went back it Wasing it wasn't working like when I you're building the table and it's not balanced it's not balanced he's not doing what it's supposed to do I went back and and I checked the manual because in my short life I had done a lot of the things that I was supposed to do and it was as if the bar kept moving right the goalpost kept moving oh if you just fast for 3 Days God will do this I fast for three days you know what seven days God will do this right 21 days 40 days oh fast and only praise fast and only prayer Pray at 2: a.m. at the second watch or the third watch you do all all of those things and you don't get the results you have a choice you can just you know what keep doing it keep doing without I do it well without any expectation right like the guy who was always at the pool of Betha he just kept doing the same thing and making excuses the problem is a lot of us we don't we just lie we just lie a lot of people in church are frustrated but they're going to lie to you they're not going to tell you that man if not that I feel like my neighbors will judge me this is exactly what I would be doing and that is exactly what I will be doing the number of times I used to wish that I could go to some strange Island where nobody knew me because I've already been boxed into this pastoral Christian role because it wasn't working and trust me well you don't have to trust me I I I I I did a lot right and it didn't work and so I went back and I checked the manual and I saw something that I hadn't heard too much about I heard a little bit but not a lot of and that was Jesus right and when I K into that yeah Jesus not seven steps right not the mystery Keys just Jesus my life literally changed it was a big mistake a big mess that my life was prior to that but now I I I I am fundamentally at peace right I have struggles with depression right but that's a medical condition but I know God is going to heal me at some point yeah but can I be honest with you that's not even the big thing the big thing for me is Christ maintaining that relationship yeah investing in that relationship building that relationship focusing on that relationship that is the big thing for me right because I understand that Christ in me is the hope of glory right that is the source of Hope does does that make sense no it makes absolutely sense I was going to ask you to wrap up with one word but I feel like when you just said Jesus that in itself felt like you wrapped it up in one word that that that is it Jesus Jesus is all in all right and until the church gets back to that yeah the church will continue right to be labeled mislabeled right characterized in the most derogatory terms it is going to happen anyway but to the extent that it is happening yeah is because the church the good thing is this there's a Remnant there are people on this planet loads of them who are preaching the truth but many of us don't want to hear the truth because the truth is not focused on being comfortable and we want to be comfortable more than anything well um it's a good place to kind of yeah yeah to kind of WRA uh as always uh thank you very much sh it's I don't know if you're feeling what I'm feeling right now you know these things tend to touch deeper than than one expects right yeah I I think I I'm just over here like I hope that people listen and they actually examine their lives and like just not necessarily with like did I do it right or did I do it wrong or am I doing it right or wrong but just kind of ask yourself again um is Jesus the goal is Jesus is a relationship with Christ what I'm seeking um and do I equate that with being comfortable um I hope that many people actually start having this conversations with themselves and with their families it's important it will it will it's it's it's that's the whole point that's that's why we're doing this right to provoke thought and that's why you know I'm not going to be politically correct and we're going to call it as because it is important it is important that we go back and think I'm tired of people lying giving testimonies that are false I mean people are going to you acting all giving false testimonies people come to church and they it's like they walk in and they put a smile on their face and as soon as they get out of church they fighting yeah yeah right but as them how how you doing oh everything is great because guys um thank you so much and we will catch you guys on the next one all right see you guys later unfilter [Music] [Music]