(0:00)The Lion's Den Is Coming
And all of us will be thrown into a lion's den. At some point in time, all of us will be thrown into the fire. So get ready for yours if it has never happened. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. It's you. You are Shadrach, you are Meshach, you are Bedo. And you are Daniel by the way. So get ready for your Daniel time. It's a matter of time. If you sit down watching TV, it's so much easier to be entertained by television than by books. Yeah. Right. So when kids are already from an early age watching TV, the stories you get from books, you get from TV without the mental exercise. It's easier to watch Spongebob than read about Spongebob. You know what I mean? And that's what we do. We introduce our children to TV to pacify them on their on their iPads and then we want them to read afterwards. Why? Unfiltered. Welcome to another episode of PF. Yay.
(1:05)Why Your Excitement Bothers Me
I need sometimes you guys your excitement bothers me. Why? I don't know. It's just like why are you so excited? Cuz you're here. That bothers me even more. No, I'm just kidding. I'm excited to be here too. I know it doesn't show on my face, but I'm always excited to be here. That's it. You can see how excited I am. You're very excited. Thank you. Um my name is Before I was spiritually interrupted. Okay, my name is Cinema Controller. Um, I'm joined by my awesome co-host, Esther Griffin. Griffin and obviously the man that links us all together. Jesus Christ. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Sar. No, no, no. The more serious, Pastor Fei. Yeah. PF in PF unfiltered. The PF of PF unfiltered. Yeah, you know you guys you guys just I need to pray for you guys a lot better you have towards him towards this guy we are just messengers. How did this show start? Let's just let's let's see because when you start saying PF unfiltered we need to understand that he just put my name there right as a cover for their branding. H this show started because
(2:16)How PF Unfiltered Actually Started
this man T used to harass me. We had good times though when you in Parker harassment. He used to harass me. Producer used to harass me. Esther was my friend. Now she has joined bad gang. Former and she's about to get married on top of that. Oh wow. Really? Oh you guys you guys know. Can we can we Yeah, we'll probably check that out. Why we take it out? Yeah. Yeah. Let's take it out. Maybe not take it out. Give her some trouble. But anyway, yeah. Um, so yeah, you know, tell me whatever. And and and and if you guys are wondering why we're chirpier than usual, I mean, we we're typically trippy. Yeah, I am. Yeah. But too chy if you ask sometimes. I mean, when you are in the Lord, you just can't help. There are a lot of things to be thankful for. Be soberness. Be sober. Be vigilant. Yes. Because your adversary is searching around. Absolutely. What's the What's that scripture? I paraphrase too much. Don't worry. There's a rapid fire section in this that we're going to ask PF saying. Why? Why you asking PF? Am I doing Well, clearly you just you throwing the most at us, right? I just want to say this loves the Bible. Paraphrase. No, we're not film. As long as you're paraphrasing does not um or omit. Okay. Okay. We want to first of all say a massive thank you to everyone um this journey like especially our viewers in Jamaica and then our viewers. Did you say you say wagwan? Yeah. Canada. I wasn't supposed to. Um Nigeria, Ghana, patronizing. We love you guys. Thank you guys for subscribing and watching. Wan brothers. um our our our our listeners and viewers in the UK. Yeah. Um how do you do? Is that UK accent? No, I was just saying how do you do? That's that's UK. Do you have a UK accent? Of course not. Speak British. You didn't you used to live in Ireland? Speak British. I lived in Manchester. You even lived in the UK. Yeah, I lived in Manchester for a couple of years when I was younger. If you had to put on a UK accent, could you do that for No, I can't. I'm sorry. But what
(4:40)Naija Accent vs. Proper English
about your um your broken English accent? And what broken English accent is? What was that? You don't have a broken English accent? Not at all. Do you know what broken English is? Pigeon English. Well, I speak pigeon English. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can you speak a little bit for I speak it the way I speak, you know? No, normally you don't it doesn't you don't doesn't become day. I don't talk like that. Is that rat? It's not I I think some people have some people, you know, have an accent. Yeah. that's you know from their locals you know I didn't grow up from their locals I didn't guys as you guys can tell man leave that matter no no no I I I speak pian English all the time but I have fun now yeah what's up so I did all the any better better plenty ground they allow us all our colors they allow us niger those guys yeah Halo now do well. We not do well. We do well. How many subscriber we don't get now? Man,
(5:40)The 'Where's The Money' Conspiracy
we don't we don't we don't scatter. Where the money now guy? Somebody they chop this money. I never see this money. Producer scatter hold this guy. I mean between him chop the money finish. And if you notice say every time they follow script she always follow script then they write the script they chop the money clean like you want to shout out our producer. Shout out to Aqua. Yeah. Shout out to our producer. He does a fantastic job. Don't shout out the money to to bear with us for this long. I think this sort of personality is I think it's shout out to you guys. Yeah. Shout out to for putting up with these two. You all are a problem man. Nah, nah, nah. We're going to get right into it. All right. Um, I know I've said this a couple of times, PF, and I know you don't believe me, but this is actually very true. Yeah. Since you pastor one of the fastest growing churches. Oh, Jesus is Lord. In central, according to some sources. Amen. Right. Can you site your sources, please? No, there's some sources. I can't site my sources. They will not be a source anymore. You should have said confidential sources. Confidential sources. Yeah. So, if you weren't a full-time pastor, actually, let's celebrate that. I mean, one of the pastors that I can see. I think pastors should be celebrating. They should be. I agree. Yeah. But if you weren't pastoring full time, Yeah. What would you That's interesting. What would I be doing? Or what would I want to be doing? What would you want to be doing? What would you What would you be? Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Oh, you want to do both? We don't know. We just know if you're not a pastor, what would you be doing? What would you be doing? What's the alternative? Yeah.
(7:26)If I Weren't A Pastor, I'd Be In The Military
I had wanted to join the army. So I'd probably be maybe looking at promotion patterns in the Nigerian army if I was still alive and they had not sent me to Sambisa. Might be a brigadeier major general in the Nigerian army. Most of my contemporaries who joined the army um after we came out of college are are rednecks now. Oh passes either join I don't know what does that mean in the context of Nigeria redneck yes so in the Nigerian military there's a there's a I don't remember the name there's a tab that certain uh a certain c of officers wear on their collar it's it's red and it's the senior officers so they call them rednecks cuz they have that red tab on the on the color of their uniforms um and they're usually officers from the rank of Cornell um Cornell Brigadier General, Major General, Lieutenant General, handful general. In in America, you call them um Connell's um major general, one star general, two star general, three star general, and four star. Yeah. But we we you know, our military is formed based off of the British. Okay. So they actually have names. It's brigadier, major, lieutenant, and general. So I probably be one of in one of those if you know if you do I'd end up in I don't know. I didn't expect that answer. Really? What do you think? What do you think I be a politician? I'm seeing Oh. I don't know. See like a professor. Definitely not. No, you can teach though. I don't know. I just I'm getting that vibe. That's the Holy Spirit. I I Yeah, definitely not a teacher. M I don't have the um um the um the the the the the tendency to rigor you know the that you need to be in academia you know I I don't I don't know I I will research and study to understand right and I can teach from understanding but many times academia requires another level of knowledge it's not just that you understand the concept it's also that you know you understand a lot There a lot of things involved. Yeah. That Yeah. Yeah. I I I don't Yeah. And I don't have the I'm not organized like that. That's interesting. Well, in America, education, that's a little questionable. Really? I think so. Well, let's let's
(9:50)Why Children Can't Read Anymore
Yeah. Shout out to our American viewers as well. Thank you so much. Yeah. You guys are our biggest Yeah. Why are you Don't offend our American viewers now. Sorry guys, because I'm raising I'm trying to raise boys that can read well and do all the things. Okay. Um but that's you though. your your children's your children's hunger for reading comes from what you expose them to, right? And and and and that's the problem with our society. We don't realize how much um the viewing the the the the materials we view, right? Eros our ability to read. Yeah. Because if you sit down watching TV, it's so much easier to be entertained by television than by books. Yeah. Right. And so when kids are already from an early age watching TV, so the stories you get from books, right, you get it from TV without the mental exercise. So it's easier to watch Spongebob than read about Spongebob. You know what I mean? And that's what we do. We introduce our children to TV to pacify them on their on their iPads and then we want them to read afterwards. Why? It becomes a bit more it's more challenging. But we grew up with books. Mhm. You grew up with a lot of books, you know, if you if you wanted entertainment, you read a book, you know, cuz TV was Yeah. was hardly ever available, you know. TV stations come on at 4 4 p.m. Was it 6 p.m. at the time? And 6 6 Yeah, they come on for, you know, brief window and then they've switched to adult programs. So maybe an hour and a half or 2 hours of TV is the max you can get if your parents allow you to sit in front of it. Sorry, four and then six are adults. Yeah. And then books. So I read a lot. My father had a set of Britannica encyclopedia. You guys won't know what that is. I mean come on. I went to King's College Lego. Oh god. Nobody will hear word again. Okay. Yeah. You went to KC. Yeah. Big. That's why words like betuporate feeling there is a large percentage of the population or the audience at least I don't know what betate is I see so this one is not me maybe something else something it's a conundrum that is that you go to king college and not understand me of vuperate okay okay yeah we're celebrating this episode um yeah so I know I have to be shutting you up now you're fine One word now. You get me stuck, right? Straight out there. Um, so last episode we had Pastor AK. Um, that was fun. Um, we're so happy she for us clearly. I don't know how fun it was for you. AK is cool. It was fun for me. AK is cool. AK is my homie. But she's not here today. Praise the Lord. So, you know, we want you to kind of tell us the real, you know, but she's going to listen. True. Yeah. You see this guy? This guy wants to send me to marriage counseling. Oh my crazy that you go to the marriage counseling in which you counsel. Yeah, you when I get my I think you need counseling. So what was that you said? Thanks. No. Fun fact, they do have they do have people that they they go to for stuff. I'm I'm I'm not surprised. He was on the podcast. You know who? Oh, I was going to say Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Paso is my pas is our mentor. Uh yeah, he's the guy when she messes up I report her to. It's really problematic cuz she never has anything to report me to him about cuz I'm just I mean I can tell I mean I mean I'm I'm telling you I mean it's PF I mean the the PF of Come on. What are you to report him another day of perfection? Oh my god. Not really cuz it comes naturally. Yeah. So I mean it's the comeback for me. It's not it's not hard to be me. It's just who I am. Can you say last part again so he can hear it? I'm sorry. What? Can you say the last part again so he can hear the part you said you bought her to? I'm sorry. What? What? I like it. You're always in the present moment. I'm sorry. I don't I don't fast is going every morning. Ah, you know what? I'm learning a lot of this guy. This guy. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, do you have any other questions? Cuz I have plenty. Um, okay. Let's see. Let Esa is quiet today. She has been reading the script again. As Esa is looking for question. Mhm. I want us to settle this once. Okay. You told a few people in the past some viewers might not be privy to this. Mhm. Okay. Oh yeah. Done. Pretty. Yeah. Wow. You're getting excited about pretty. Oh, but you have said that you have a a natural disdainment for avocados. I have
(14:40)The Avocado Abomination
a natural I have aversion. You mean aversion? Yes. Thank you. Yes. I have an I have an aversion for avocado. Yeah. Why? I think it's disgusting. Mhm. I think it's disgusting. I think it's an abomination. Yes. I think it's um Yes. It induces um feelings of intense nausea. Let him go. Keep going. Keep going. Somebody need to listen. This is a word, by the way. Keep going. Nasty. Yes. Nasty. Yes. Okay. Bruce. Yes. Nyama. For those who know, they know. On that note, let's keep let's be consistent. What about people that have pineapples on pizza? Well, that's fine.
(15:20)Pineapple Pizza: A Holy Debate
That's okay. That's okay. But avocados is a no. No. Avocados. See? Okay. Let's talk about avocados. Where did it start from? Let's stay on avocados. I'm going to have nightmares tonight. But but let's let's talk about avocados. Avocados have they're green. Or are they yellow? They're green. No, you have I don't know if it's green. No, it's green. Let's talk about the standard green ones that we have in America. Something refuses to take a side. It's lukewarm. Is lukewarm. It's kind of like Exactly. So, is it green or is it yellow? What is he trying to hide? Yes, exactly. A nondescript. Exactly. Wait, pause. PM, where do all of this start from? Are you in the message? PF is making a parable. No way. It's biblical. Where did all of this start from? What? That you don't like avocados? I I don't The thing is neither here nor there. It is. Is it green? Is it yellow? It's a sickly looking combo. It doesn't serve too much stuff. Did it start from Nigeria or you got to America? I I I don't I don't I just I've always had an aversion for it. It's just even guacamole as well. Hey, don't don't be No, no, no, no. Esa, the celebratory episode. Guacamole. Guacamole is like regurgitated. Yeah. Like vomit. Avocado vomit. Oh my god. chunks of of poorly digested or poly and then you serve it to somebody. If somebody sells me guacamole, it is war just warning. Yeah. So, so, so, so first of all, it looks horrible without neither here nor their color. They put tomatoes, they put onions before they then then texture-wise, what's that texture? Is it Vaseline? What? It's dense Vaseline. It's going on. Avocado is like Vaseline. You don't like it? I don't like avocado like avocado is like green Vaseline without any without any flavor. So why you why don't you just put a take some Vaseline and spread it on your face and then call that your tortilla and call that cheese or or why don't you just put some Vaseline in the freezer and eat it and then when you vomit put it serve it on the serve it on the guaca guacam I I appreciate that PF thank you that's nasty you really clarified something for me please so much if you if I die and you don't have the anointing to raise me from the dead put avocado in my mouth I will wake up just to pass you. I go pass you ab abuse you. Let me tell you a story about Avocado and me. A friend of mine, I don't know if I should call him a friend after that stunt he pulled went and got he went he called me. We're doing some work in church and he he said, "Hey PF, I got you a sandwich." And I said to him, "Oh, thank you very much." But something he made, the Holy Spirit said, "Ask him." He said, "A sandwich." So I said, "Hey, uh, so what's in the sandwich?" He's like, "There's some ham, there's some cheese, there's some turkey, some some tomatoes, onions, avocado." He said, "Avocado." I said I said, "I'm sorry. I can't eat it." He said, "Really?" He said, "Yeah." I said, "I can't." He said, "Okay, okay, I'll take it back." So he saw what this dastardly young man did. He took the avocado back or he says it did, but they didn't make a new sandwich. They just scraped it off. They scraped the avocado. That's the worst. They they actually scraped. Can you imagine? Who does that residue? It's not It's more than salt. That is gross. Who does that? So they scraped off the avocado and he brought it. Right. So yeah. me trusting him, I took a bite and immediately the nausea came upon me like a wave. I said, "Guy, guy, guy, why have you deceived me?" Are you saying, "Are you seeing the parable of why have you deceived me?" And I opened it and I saw flex of that neither green nor yellow thing, confused fruit or vegetable, whatever it is. I I I I I um I that day that was a trying day for me. Extremely difficult. But you know what? He that began a good work within me. He he completed it that day. I I did not attack him. I did not assault him. You know, um the the choice words that I had for him, I kept at least 40% back. That's only 40%. That's if he had got 100% it would have been problematic. But are you seeing the depth the scriptural depth of this analy so so yeah so that's you know and I know God is in support because the Holy Spirit had told me that that guy was eating a sandwich full of so God does not want us to eat avocado. He said I suspect that I suspect that the fruit that the devil brought for Eve was avocado. It was not an apple cuz apples are nice. Apples are nice. It must have been an avocado. Oh, that's deceptive looking thing. And then there's a big stone inside. And God said God said, "Which kind of father we give?" You ask for bread, we give you avocado. [Music] Are you guys Are you getting it? Are you Are you Are you Are you getting it? They don't get it. Getting it. We ain't going to eat that avocado. We going to eat it. Okay. That avocado and toast gang, if you're here, if you know, you know. It's just with the runny egg on top. God. Oh my god. Oh my god. Please can somebody say something nice to remove that image? Something. No. No. No. No. Let's talk about something like um something country. Thank you. I was almost gone for a minute. Can you imagine avocado and runny egg? That's crazy. You know some people you know you know when you want to know somebody who is a sociopath, right? Or a psychopath, right? Look at what they eat. They eat avocado. Sociopath. Avocado and runny egg. Psychopath. Don't turn your back on this auntie. You just wake up one day. Fun fact, I actually don't eat runny eggs, but my eggs have to be fried fried over hard. I don't eat runny eggs. So, why would you do avocado and runny eggs? Cuz people do it. That's the thing. You're trying to trigger me. Ah, I'm getting it. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. No, I have a couple more questions if I go to segment. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Um, so I was always curious about this. Before you got married, was there an idea that you and Pastor I should have asked this last episode. You had about how many kids you wanted and did that change after cuz the people I know that like ah I want four children once one or two enter like I'm good. They do it on the wedding day. How many do you want reality kind of hits? I'm curious if that is I never had any. Well, like I remember I it was just so the only thing I I knew about the children about that thing that whole the kids you have was I grew up with my father very early on telling me that I could not marry somebody who was as the blood type. Yeah. The blood type. and that if I did then we would have kids who would be you know um who would have the cle cell trait and how it would make life very difficult for the childh you know and he kind of drumed it into my head how painful that was and and as an adult I've seen loved ones you know experience the pain I have friends who carried the trait so I know how difficult that is so that was the only thing I had in my mind that okay I would not marry somebody who was When it came to children, I did not think about how many. I did not think about male or female. It was just never a thought for me. Which is ironic because AK and I did not discuss this. I discuss it with every woman I am attracted to, even casual relationships. But when AK and I started to when when I spoke to her the first time and proposed to her, I did not know whether she was a AA or SS. I had no idea. And when we did talk about it, she didn't know. And what we said was okay, well, if you are, then it means we won't have children, right? I was Yeah. And and that's one of the things that I said that when you marry somebody who because you want children, what if the person cannot give you children, you know? So that's why I always encourage people that the only thing that matters that mattered to me was the person I was marrying, right? what they could do or not do, you know, whether she can cook or not cook. I didn't know whether AK could cook when I proposed to her. Okay. The only thing I knew about her was the kind of person she was. I knew nothing about her abilities domestically, sexually, um on any level. Yeah. Right. And and that's one of the things that we talk about because you marry somebody because they can cook and then something happens to them. Their sense of smell disappears. Their sense of taste they can't cook. You marry someone because of children and then they get sick they can't have children. You marry somebody because of money and then they lose their money. Right? When you marry somebody because of things attributes that they can either learn or lose, you're looking for trouble because what if something happens and they don't have it anymore? Do you swap them out for someone else who can do it for you? you know, so children, sorry I went about that, you know. No, but children was never I didn't think about it. AK on the other hand, she had a thing. She was like she wants a big family, seven children or some nonsense like that. And then and then she had the first one and she was ill. That one didn't teach her. Then she had the second one. That one showed her fire. Dami Dams is the is an angel. But growing up, her first year or two, before she could communicate, she cried. Like when I say cry, she wailed. Right. And she wailed nonstop and nobody could touch her except her mother. Wow. Right. Me occasionally she will let me. Right. But let me put it like this. If AK is frying plantains. Yeah. She's holding that mis and she's frying planting plantain. That's how bad it was. Yeah, but Dami say now is like, oh my god, she's just the sweetest person on this planet. She's the she's the child that deceives you into thinking you can have seven children. But when she was a toddler, that didn't have terrible twos. It was terrible from day one and then when she became two, it all disappeared. Yeah. Oh, beautiful twos. I have one more. We have Mama Mary's allpurpose seasoning. We have the low sodium option and the regular. U Mama Mary's allpurpose seasoning is a Nigerian inspired mix that can be seasoned. That can be used to season what exactly? You can use season your soups, your steels, your rice, your meat, your relationships, your relationship with God, everything. Mercy, everything you can season it with it. And how do they order? You can order off Amazon using our promo code of PF summer 10 for 10% off. That is PF summer 10 for 10% off. So, my husband actually used um the seasoning this past weekend. He made some stew and it was so good. Um he used he actually used the low sodium option and so when he tasted it, he was like, "Oh, this is really really good." And I was like, "Yeah, buddy." And I was like, "Which one did you use?" He said he used the low sodium and I was like, "Oh, that means like it still has a good amount of taste to it even though it doesn't have all the salt." And so, um, yeah, the options are really great. Um, go and get your Mama Mary's allpurpose seasoning. I have one. Okay, here you go. What is your guilty pleasure as a pastor? H, when you say guilty pleasure, like your biggest huh pastor moment? I don't have any. Give us some good. No, no, no. Seriously, I I everything I do, well, not everything. Most do. Do you have a sweet tooth? Do it for you. I have a sweet tooth. Well, you know the interesting thing. Okay. So, so the other What is it? Um I guess that's one thing that's a guilty pleasure that people don't know about. You guys know I like to bake. Yeah. Um yesterday I made macarons. Nice. Really? Yeah. I heard that's hard to make. Not really. Okay. It's hard. It is hard. It is hard. And the reason why it's hard is because No. No. But it's hard in general though. I've read even from bakers I've No, it's hard. So, you can make macarons, but getting it right is a challenge. I still haven't gotten it 100% right. If you don't know about what macarons are supposed to be like, you think my macarons are excellent, but they're not. They're flawed. If you know Yeah. Yeah. U Okay. So, like that first segment was almost, you know, just a little taster. Go a little bit deep. Uh oh. Deeper, right? All right. I ain't afraid of you. I ain't scared of you. Afraid of you. I ain't scared of you. Bring it. While you're here listening, make sure you like, subscribe, hit the notification button, y comment, and we want to say shout out to our sponsors, Mama Mary's allpurpose seasoning. Yeah. Yeah. Um, thank you so much for sponsoring us this season. Um, it's been amazing. Using the seasoning has been really good. Um, it tastes fantastic. Um, I can now personally recommend because I used it to bake some chicken and that thing was hit. Yeah, it was good. It was good. Yeah, I can't guarantee the statement from our meories, but I've also heard that you can also spice in other areas of my life. Oh, yeah. Tell us. Oh, that's that's it. Tell us. That's it. What about our Bar Avenue sponsors? Producer. Yeah. Shout out to Bar Avenue. No, because they you know what? Inconsistent. No, wait. Pause. They're supposed to bring us bread. Bar Avenue was supposed to bring us bread. They brought you What did they bring you? They brought us a lot of things. They brought you a lot of things. They brought you equipment. Yeah, they brought you stuff. Bar has tried. Shout out to Bar. But we haven't seen the bread. That's Bar has tried. Don't worry, Bar will bring you bread. Oh, this is our last episode. I'm sorry. It's a milestone episode or this season. Next season, we'll get Baru to bring bread for all the people in the audience. Yes. Yes. And everybody in the audience gets a bread. You get a bread. You get a loaf. You get a loaf. Oh, there's no audience. It's almost 10,000 of them. Wait, we're getting there. We're getting there. It's almost 10,000. We're getting there. Um, okay. We're going to go deeper, right? Um, so we know you already have a full schedule as a Yes, I do. Understand that. Uh, and you've mentioned a few times about what the driving force behind this podcast was. You even started the episode saying that, right? So if you can level set with the audience and us like what for you was the singular driving force behind for you you know behind this podcast. Honestly I feel like it's a I like the format first of all because it's it's not we don't do a scripted podcast in a sense. Um I don't know what the questions are lately. They've sent them to me but I haven't really paid a lot of attention to it. Um that's number one. Number two, we um we have a flow, right? You know, um and number three, I feel like I don't have certain chains on me, you know. I don't have the um the restrictions that the pulpit presents. I can speak my mind how I, you know, when I'm preaching in church, I have to be cognizant that people are not tuning into the service because they want to hear what I want to say. They're tuning into the service because they want to hear from God, right? It's it's not church is is not about PF. But if you go to PF unfiltered, period, right? is because you want to hear an unfiltered PF aversion for avocados and my disgust. My my visceral visceral visceral aversion inherently visceral aversion inherent is crazy for for avocado. So, so you know, so that way I know, okay, well, I can be myself and the people have to be a bit more conscious. They want you can put all purpose on the avocado. It will taste nice. All purpose what? Seasoning on the avocado. Does it does it transform it from avocado to um Does it transform it to something else? Oh, Esther. No. Does it transform it to something else? A little texture, a little taste. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, two twop two-part question. Esa Esa mentioned that um about three say 3 months ago we were at 60 subscribers on YouTube. Mhm. Now we are almost 10,000 subscribers. Jesus. How do you guys How many you buy? I don't who's buying Is that what is that what you been doing with our money? Buy subscribers. Um, so obviously first part, what would you say is the reason for this rapid rise? And you can't give us the same reason as to the rapid rise of NCH as the fastest growing church. I I I think I think we keep it real. We speak our minds. And I think a lot of people are looking for that authenticity from their leadership, right? We we we say things here. Yeah. That you will not hear from pastors. We we call things out as they as we see it. And we're not always correct. You know, I I stand to be corrected. You know, a lot of people have taken me to task lately. Some on some on serious jobless people. some comments about about me and you know I said something about how I I think um sport is a waste of time how you go to heaven and say what you did with your life was chase around a piece of leather some of my friends have taken umbrage at that comment and they can they can be umbraed as much as they like I don't give two rats tales you know for that but you know stuff like that we you know one thing you will get on PF unfiltered is truly right what we Mhm. Right. Either Tund is telling you some some nonsense about some BS about or or or EA is busy trying to make all of us feel bad for because you know you or you know I'm talking some some stuff but I think it's that this is this is you know it's real. It's real. Yeah. That that's the thing. I think it's real. That's why if it's if if if those numbers are real. No they are. And by the way, if you are right now cuz I'm suspecting you guys, man. Yes. That up cap, that cap of what he's wearing, man. Very shady, man. Real now. Obviously, I said almost 10,000 that you're right. It's about 8,000 and something. But listening, I knew it. I want you to slap that subscribe button. Oh yeah. The devil like you are slapping the devil is next to you and your blessing and you're like, "So subscribe." Exactly. That's how you do it. Exactly. Because match the devil if you subscribe on this. Exactly. Thank you. PSF. You'll get the latest, you know, notifications and like the latest um episodes that we post. If you subscribe, you'll see them. So, absolutely. Absolutely. Uh this one is more of a me question. So, can I ask it cuz um people say that the church is a hospital. Mhm. Uh a place for healing, which is I believe is very true. spiritual healing and all that kind of stuff, right? Restoration onto Christ. So, why do you think that people stay in the hospital long after they've been discharged? Who discharged them? It's a good question. Nobody's discharging anybody in this world. The journey, what theos what the hospital does, it doesn't heal, it is a healing, right? And and maybe he maybe a hospital is not the best one. Maybe a maybe it's a psychiatric institution. Maybe he's is a mental mental asylum. What is that even better? No, because because I'll tell you this more accurate. It's a it's a healing. It's a it's a place where transformation takes place, right? And transformation is a lifelong quest, right? It's not a one-time thing, right? Um uh the idea of a hospital is some where you go with a sickness, you go, they, you know, they give you medication, you're good. You you're good to go. Yeah. You're never good to go. So there's no discharging. The day you are discharged is the day you stand in front of your your maker. Your maker, right? Um while you are in this body on this earth, the church is the physical representation of the body of Christ, right? And you will always be a part of it as long as you are in Christ. So there's no discharging you from it. Um, people sometimes think that there there's a place there's a there's a there a Christian, right, should get to a point where he's perfect, right, perfect in behavior, perfect in thought, perfect in everything. But I think that is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of humanity, right? And what Jesus Christ came to do. If it were possible for us to attain perfection, we don't need Jesus. Yeah. Right. Because Jesus is such a comprehensive solution, right? Is is such an extreme solution that you would send your only begotten son. It means that there was no way for us to get fixed, right? There was no way for us to solve the problem. It was an unsolvable problem. So, they sent Jesus to wash us with his blood cuz there was no way we could ever wash ourselves, right? And as long as we are on this planet, we're always going to need Christ. Yeah. Always. I have a question. Yes. In terms of like perfection, like what is actually being perfect? Cuz I think of it as like being good. So like when we think about perfection, technically to be perfect is to be like Christ. Is to be like God, right? In in every way in in in thought, in speech, in deed, right? And it's not possible. That's why Jesus Christ said, "Abide in me, live in me." you can't visit Christ, right? Abide in me. And and when you think about that, right, we always focus on one very narrow aspect of Christ and which is the word, right? So when someone says abide in me, we think, oh, abide in Christ. Abide, I have preached it as abide in your faith that Christ paid for your sins. But abide in me is abide in his word. Cuz the Bible says in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God and the same and the word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us. But the church is the body of Christ. So how do you abide in him outside of his body? Sir, you're preaching. I get that. I guess and this is why this question is No, no, I know I know I just I was I was I was taking it in a different direction as as as I as I you know. So when people are deregul um deconstructing and they somehow deconstruct themselves out of church right you are deconstructing yourself out of the body of Christ right when you deconstruct yourself out of the body of Christ what is the how are you abiding in Christ how do you abide in him outside of him right and that's where I wanted to tackle PF and this is why this question was personal for me because on a on an object all things being equal on an objective level that makes how can you abide in Christ if you're outside of the body of Christ but then I bring in that again that context of there are a lot of people that are in the church you know but they're not in Christ so Jesus Christ himself said he gave he gave a part he said you go to a field and you see some wheat and then you see some tears and you want to try and pull out the tears say leave the tears because you don't know who is a wheat and who is tear because you might accidentally pull out some wheat that look like tears and you might you might actually pull out some you know um so so yeah you're right in the in the body of Christ there are people who are not of Christ but that is not the basis for those who are of Christ to say who who right claim they of Christ in fact if you were of Christ would you leave his body right I would if you were ever of him would you leave him right like who was it that said if they were one if they were part of us they would never have left us so they They're never really a part of us in the first place, right? Yeah. I I it's a vers of I just don't remember. I don't remember where it is. Um but the point I'm trying to make is that the the body is an everlasting membership. The church is an everlasting membership. It's a you you are permanently admitted to this hospital. That's why I used the uh uh yeah a psych word where you are just you're there, right? And what the Bible says, do not be conformed. Yes. Nothing on me. be transformed by the renewing of your mind. You know, I've I've seen people who have certain things in their lives together, but then you look behind and you see that there are certain things that are not together, right? And all of us have areas of growth. Yeah. And we will have those areas of growth until we leave this body, right? And that is why they needed to send Christ because there will never be a point where you have attained to the point where you don't need and I guess that's that's my I'm trying to as your Yeah, absolutely. Please. So the the Christ the body of Christ is can be a location, right? It's not a location. I don't think it can be a location. I think it's a gathering. Okay. So, that's what I'm going to right like like I I think where you worship is important. But for me, I believe what what's more important than where you worship is worship in spirit and truth. No, no, no. To say don't worry. No, no, no. You cannot worship in spirit and in truth. Right. If you are not worshiping as the body of Christ, the very idea, right, of in spirit and in truth is Christ. Right. Right. So it is not about the location geographical. It's about the who you are worshiping with. Right. Right. So it if two or three of you are gathered in my name, there I am in your midst. Right. When you gather with Christians, right, you form the body of Christ. When you are by yourself, right, you are a a break in the body, right? Right. And your your your desire, your your your yearning is to be um reunited with the other parts of your body. But when you take the hand, right, and you cut it off intentionally and you leave it by itself without being resourced anymore by the blood, right? Then the hand will it will dry off. Yeah. Right. And that's what happens, right? So it is not about the location, it's about who? The connection. The connection. Thank you. It's not about the location, about the connection. So when you when you when you when you se that connection right it's literally like a body part severing itself from the body it dies you cannot have a hand continue to be a hand with the functionality of a hand without the arm. Yeah right and the rest of the body. Yeah. And my concern is that a lot of people today, a lot of people are not being honest, right? And saying, you know what, I have cut myself off from the body of Christ. But in reality, that is what they have done. And some people are misguided to think that I don't need the church. I can believe in Jesus but I don't need the church because because the church is made up of people and people as long as we are in this body we are flawed. Yeah. So you will see in the church every single sin you see in the world. Right. The day you do not see sin in the church is the day the church does not need Christ. And I guess I'm Yeah. And I maybe I'm struggling to articulate this. I'm not advocating intentionally or intentionally for perfection. I don't think that was Christ's message, right? Like that's your point. That's everywhere. I guess what I'm going here is No, that's that we should advocate for perfection. God needs be holy as I am holy. Yeah. Okay. That's a separate that's the premission. But God God requires perfection. Yeah. But to your point, it's unattainable without Christ. Without Christ. Yes. So and and Christ your point is like the the church is not is not in isolation as we saying right it's it's not you in isolation me in isolation where I struggle is to the point you raised earlier about being careful what the the the weeds and the and the fruit those two are in the wit and tears wit and the tears those two are in are in the church and in the world. Yeah. So the individual then the church Yeah. individual. Again, the world is full of tears. Okay. That look like wheat, but it's all tears, right? And there are people in there also weeds in the church, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, there are weeds in the church, but there are only weeds in the world. Okay. Okay. Makes sense. Okay. Cuz you have to be. So but when those when you said it's a gathering now the question is if the individual the individual does not understand the the purpose of Christ they would convince themselves that it is in the gathering right there's something wrong with the gathering versus it it being a connection like you guys are saying that makes sense I get what you're saying I'm trying to cuz everyone always says what what do you mean and I and I get this rebuttal that makes sense I'm advocating for leaving the church. No, no, no. I'm advocating for something a little bit deeper in relationship or in the church. No, it's okay. I struggle. I don't I don't do a job. I I think you I think I think it it's you're so the the you're talking about the quality of the gathering. Yes. Right. The quality of the gathering. Yeah. Or the connection that you get in the gathering, not the gathering itself. While Can I can I articulate this way? When people say uh um you coming to church think that you're you're coming to church to meet with God and to fellowship but like you coming to church alone is not you actually being connected with the Lord. Mhm. So that's the that's what he's trying to say like is you coming to church signifying that you are connected with the Lord that you're abiding in him just because you just come to church because people some people make it about the going to and I always struggle to because everyone know to your point you make a good point. Everyone always assumes I'm saying dismissal. Oh yeah, but but it but it's the two. It's a combination. It's the two. You can't you can't have a connection without a connecting, right? Right. So I cannot receive from the gathering, right? Without going to the gathering. Do you understand what I'm saying? So it's a it's a you have to go to the connection, right? To connect. You know what I'm saying? location to your Yes, it's not a location, but there's a we turn it into Well, sorry, let me not generalize. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Whether whether it's a location or not, whether whether in my mind it's a location or not, right? I have to go there, right? I have to go there um physically, right? Many times um spiritually and emotionally, right? I cannot right be here, right? I have to leave my environment emotional physical right and meet with right to achieve that union right yeah it's like a husband and a wife right we are individuals whole legitimate units the two have to come together to become one right that coming together right is a critical part of the oneness right right you cannot become one as unit right so when people start to say I don't need to go I don't need to be a part of I question that too where I'm going I question that but there could be what I'm trying to say there could be you're like there has to be a coming together yes but there is a there is a quality in both parties coming together and I I think that part isn't emphasized. The quality I just have to come together the quality deeper than that. The quality is not generated by the individuals. Right. The quality is generated by the spirit. Okay. I was going to say correct. Yeah. So the Holy Spirit is what takes our coming together. Right. Right. I don't have to understand it. Right. I don't have to understand it. I don't have to um because understanding is a consequence of enlightenment either through education or through inspiration right that understanding yeah comes to different people at different stages okay there are many who don't still up till now understand the value of the body of Christ the the role of the body of Christ they don't even understand what the body of Christ is doesn't take away from the power it doesn't right doesn't take away from the from the value. Mhm. Right. So I am not as a pastor and a teacher I want everybody to understand. Absolutely. But even if you don't get it right, it does not diminish what God will do in your life through it. That's good. Just say if you don't get it, it means you might what might happen is that you might abuse it and you might misuse it. Right? But if God is determined to bless you through it, right? He will bless you through it. So let me give you a classic example. The Bible says when Jesus Christ was leaving, he gave gifts to the church, the five-fold ministry, apostles, teachers, evangelists, prophets, and pastors. Those gifts exist in the context of the body of Christ, right? For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of ministry. When you separate from the body for whatever reason, your access to those gifts for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry is diminished. That's true. Right? Which means that the journey of your perfection is in is in the church is not it is in the church, right? The definition of a church is not necessarily a location. No, in the people in the gathering of the people. In the gathering in the people, right? When you step out of that gathering. Yes. When you step out of that gathering, right, you lose the gifting, right? So, it's almost like I step out of the gather. Let's assume that's possible to step out of the body and still be a part of the body somehow, right? Which I don't know how that is possible. But imagine imagine some miraculous way. It's possible to step out of the body. So, you step out of the body, but you still want to have the benefits of the knees and the spine, right? and the circulatory systems, right? It's just not possible. So, so eventually the atrophy and eventual um what's the word? Decay and decay and whatever is is inevitable. Yeah. Right. But if the body is Christ, if the body is Christ, because there could be a gathering of 50 Mhm. And if there is no worship in spirit and in truth, it then then even if there's a guardian of that are saying that they are there because of God, right? There will still be an atrophy because that body isn't Christ. They might think it's Christ because they're saying the word. Yeah. But but that's where I'm going. I know I'm going it's not it's not it's not that it is deep. It's that it's not that what you're basically saying is that if it is not a real church, right? If it's not really the body of Christ, if it's just a gathering of people, so let's say somebody you go to, you have a group of friends and you're all smoking weed together, you will say this is a church. I just if you put the the uh the church of the Pentecost or something, no offense, and the the the people the actual people like to your point are again like like Christ said, their hearts is not for him, just the world. Well, but we but we but that's a constant now. that that's a constant because half of the people who half of the churches in quote the gatherings and and this is the thing right I don't understand let me take that back I do understand cuz I've been a part of it the body of Christ is founded on Christ right it is built around Christ right when you go to a gathering and it is built around Moses right right you can see that right the Bible says in the As this people will be deceived, yeah, the deception comes because they do not sit down with the word, right? And they lay up for themselves teachers who teach what they want to hear. So if you are really hungry, if you desire the sincere truth, yeah, it is hard. It is hard. But I'll tell you this, many of us are deceived because what we desire is not the truth that is Christ. What we desire is the facts of how to be rich, how to be happy, and how to be comfortable. So, we go to church and we look for we look for gatherings that best serve that purpose. Who will make me feel the best on Sunday, right? Who will make me more likely to succeed on Monday as opposed to who is more representative of Christ? And thank you for helping me. That was kind of where I was. I wasn't trying to say it. Just No, no, no, no, no. No, no, because because when you so the problem is when you talk about location, it starts to look like because the church gathers in a location. I understand, right? So using location is problematic because it's easy to Yeah. for it to be Yeah, I get it. It's not the first. Yeah, I appreciate that. I just wanted to It's okay. I I I do this. I set you straight. I set you straight all the I set you straight all the time. You're like, "Oh, I see where you're going." Like always who sees where you're going? You just did it for me. Let me clarify. Education is not a problem. This is why we do PF on filter so that we can help we can help today understand things better. Producer is telling us to close. Yes. Yes. Lastly to close us out. If you had one thing to give the people as we exit out this particular season, what is that one thing that you want them to take from this? No. Are we not doing rapid fire again? No, we don't have time. You spent all the time. No, but was telling us to move on. You show the rapid fire. I want to I want to test PS, you know, unless I mean we don't have to do it. No, no rap for five minutes. We don't have to do it like that's I gave you easy one. Okay, so this is the key. You just I'm going to throw out the verse and you can you have to guess where it is in the Bible. No, that No, no, that's not going to happen. I don't do that. Okay, fair enough. I don't I don't do that guess. I don't do where that guess where it is in the Bible. I've said it before. Doesn't matter. I'm going to say I've said it before. Just I've said it before. I don't know. I don't always remember this. But let's use Esther too. Okay. Though your beginning was small, your latter days will be very I don't know. No. Okay. Are you sure is this Bible quiz? Please can you move? Let's move on to see where you search the scriptures for eternal life. That's Jesus Christ. So do you want me to finish it? I don't understand. Where is it? Where in the scripture is it? Okay, this is easy. I don't know where it is. I know it's I've read it. The heart is The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. M. So what happened? What book are interested? What what what book is it? No, because I don't know where they are. I just know that we can we can close out. Oh my god. We can go. I'm just I'm not trying to expose us. I'm just saying there's no exposure. I've said it. Me I understand. I don't remember chapter verse. You knew that last one. The heart is the specific. I don't know chapter vers. I'm just trying to make sure I don't know. I don't know chapter. You said it a bunch of times. I say it all the time cuz I understand what the concept and it flows from the heart. When you know it, it just it just flow. So love flowing from your heart. I don't know the scripture I don't know where it is in the Bible. Oh, sorry. So thank you very much production. The heart is above. I know this one. Above all things are desperately weak. That's Jeremiah 7:9. What about I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. I think it's like Corinthians or something like Paul wrote a letter. Oh Romans. Um, so that's Oh my god. Every in the New Testament. It's in the New Testament. Hey, God is Philippians. Where? Philippians. You tried. Oh, Philippians. You tried. You tried. Oh, yeah. That's 4:6, right? Yeah. 4:13. But you try. Okay. You got the chapter. Like that. What was the last question you're going to ask? Closes out. No, he should tell us what he wants people to take from this season. We talked about a lot this season. There's one question I want to ask before. Sorry. Sorry production. Don't be upset. So like this one is actually very very I thought it was very good. Okay. If God told you Yeah. that my faith serv my faithful servant it's time to come home and he gives you one week. One week. What would you do? That's true. In that one week and and also what would you be most proud of? Actually that's what be most what would you do and what you what would you be most proud of? That's good. If God says time, you you you've tried coming to my bosom and I had only one week. One week. He gave you a week. Tidy up your face. I would make sure that um I would want to make sure that my family was good. Okay. How? Right. That's good. By reassuring them. Yeah. Because I know, you know, how that process is perceived. Mhm. I'd make sure my family was good, you know, that my wife, that my kids, um that all my affairs are sorted cuz I would not want to leave a problem for them. Mhm. Um I would make sure that the church that I lead was good, right? Cuz I would not want them to misunderstand what was going on, right? That's number two. And number three, um, yeah, the thing about me is that there's not much I want to do in life that I have not done. So, it's not like I want to I'm going to start chasing. Oh, I need to go bungee jumping. Oh, I need to, you know, drive a Ferrari, you know. Um, I would is the people around me. I would not want my my passing on to be with the Lord to be any more difficult than that it has the potential to be. Um, and if you ask me what I would be most proud of, yeah, it would be my family, my kids. It would be my kids. I'm really God has blessed me, you know, and I think my wife, my kids, um, the folks in the church would be my priority, you know, cuz those are the folks that I feel like that make me and I'm not, you guys know me. I know like that if otherwise I'd say that make me feel like my life has been worth it. You know what I mean? Yeah, the folks in church, the the folks that I live with. Um, so yeah, so I would I would sort that out and make sure that they they're good. That's what I would do with that one. We love it. Yeah. Yeah. And with that, I can No, BF can wrap us up now. You said the uh the season, you know, this episode. I think we talked about so many different things. I I don't even remember all the things we talked about. We've talked about family. We had guests, you know, um we had guests um speakers. We we were all over the place, you know, but one thing that I would love for you to live with is that if you are a person of faith, right, your faith will be tested. You'll be confronted with situations and circumstances that instinctively would make you question God's presence and benevolence in your life. And that is the test, right? Do you believe God? Do you trust God? Your faith will be tested in the sense that your confidence in the efficacy of Jesus's sacrifice, how solid is it? If you find yourself in a problem and your instinct is to say, "What have I done to deserve this?" Then you know that you have a lot of room to grow. If you find yourself in a situation and your first reaction is, "What is God doing in my life?" then you have grown a little bit more. Um, the only thing that matters is your faith. To what extent you trust God, to what extent you trust the sacrifice of Christ. If there's anything that I want anybody to know as a Christian is that in this world you will have trouble. That is the reality. You will have challenges. You will have difficulties. You will lose your job. Sometimes you will fall ill. Sometimes your marriage will undergo stressful times is not because you're a sinner. It's that you are in this world. Yeah. So don't let anybody tell you that the presence of a challenge is an indication of the absence of God. No, it is an opportunity for you to demonstrate your faith in God. If you never are thrown into a lion's den, do they do you really believe? And all of us will be thrown into a lion's den at some point in time. All of us will be thrown into the fire. So get ready for yours if it has never happened. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego is you. You are Shadrach, you are Meshach, you are Bedo. And you are Daniel by the way. M. So get ready for your Daniel time. It's a matter of time. That's good. Well, we appreciate Yeah. the the wise words, PF. I just wanted to quickly say that again. This is not goodbye. Yeah. You know, we're going to we're taking a break to work on more. Why are we taking a break, by the way? Cuz I'm ready to work throughout the summer. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready to keep going. Just you guys be clear. It is these two that I be like, "Let's take a break. Let's take a break. We're tired. We're tired." Oh no. What is going on? Lazy Gen Z. Gen Z. We're millennials. Even worse, lazy millennials. It even rhymes. We are trying to redesign content. Redesign. What's wrong with the content? Nothing wrong. We just want to We're growing PF almost 10,000. Bar. We're trying to redesign and Fourth of July is coming up as a summer break. So, we can really pour into you can take off your clothes and be running around on the street. So, we can pour hot from Africa. Pour into our everyday summer. Our viewers. We do have a lot we do have a lot to prepare for coming up in the new season where we're going to be we're back in the form possibly doing our live podcast. There are a lot of things in the works. We're going to have to additional guest how how apologetic and attention to our socials. We may have the girls on. It's going to be lit. It's going to be lit. I don't trust those girls. Pay attention to our socials for real. We're not It's not goodbye. We're going to go redesign. We're going to come back with a bang like a firework. Okay. Shout out to you. Shout out to Shout out to Fen July. I appreciate y'all. Thank you. Peace. Bye. Unfiltered. [Music]